 Posted Wednesday, December 05, 2007 11:20 PM
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I was waching Woody Allen on You Tube and came across this.
BILLY GRAHAM SAYS ...text deleted by moderator.Anonymous, please give us more to go on before asking us to discuss your question. It would be helpful to have information like: - a link to the U Tube piece you want us to comment on - some specific examples of what Billy Graham said that you would like us to comment on - a reason why this discussion would be pertinent to these forums I'm sure your question is sincere, but without information to back it up it just sounded like gossip. Thanks, Linda
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Posted Thursday, December 06, 2007 8:12 AM
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| Of course I'm speculating here, but is this a question about what Billy Graham said as quoted by Woody Allen? ....huh?
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Posted Thursday, December 06, 2007 11:06 AM
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followingHim,
Of course I'm speculating here, but is this a question about what Billy Graham said as quoted by Woody Allen?
Looks like Woody Allen interviewed Dr. Graham many years ago:
Woody Allen Interviews Billy Graham??!!!
In the related links area on YouTube, there's one featuring John MacArthur that may be what our anonymous friend referred to:
Billy Graham exposed
The John MacArthur audio is heavily edited featuring still pictures. Not sure that YouTube should be someone's first source on theological matters. If our anonymous poster is going to rely on online sources for discerning God's word, may I recommend www.biblegateway.com.
The Bible itself is a far more reliable source than YouTube, Christian Way, MBE, Hillel, Calvin, Luther, John MacArthur, or Billy Graham. If I accomplish nothing more than encourage someone to examine what the Bible actually says, I would consider all my musings successful whether they end up agreeing with me or not.
Do Go Be Man
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Posted Tuesday, December 18, 2007 7:41 AM
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I have had posts ignored and it is frustrating to have a part of a post deleted. You all at this site get mad and accuse Mary Baker Eddy of adding words to Scripture. I have written several posts where the things you added in the New Testament contradicts Scripture or what you call the Old Testament. I am an open minded fellow and don't mind most of the fluff in the New Testament, but when you interpret it so that it contradicts Scripture then I point it out. I don't like getting edited out.
The You Tube that I mentioned was a conversation Billy Graham had with another famous Minister. A white haired guy I think from California who used to be on TV a lot. Billy Graham said that there are several ways to eternal life. This other Minister agreed and christians were up in arms saying that their's was the only way. They said that Billy Grahams entire preaching career is for naught for saying this heretic statement. (This You Tube was adjacent to Wood Allen and Billy Graham's musing).
The only times I have never had a post deleted or ignored is when I remember to write something nasty about Mary Baker Edy. I can see why you people are mad at her, because I can see where Mary Baker Eddy and Typhoid Mary are the same person. They never went to Doctors and started the flu epidemic of 1917.
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Posted Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:14 AM
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Dear "Marcos",
I wish I could better understand your agenda. It does not appear to have a lot to do with the purpose of these forums. Rather than dealing with issues related to CS, you appear to have a hatred or fear of Christianity in general. I don't even get a clear sense that you are actually Jewish as you claim, at least from a theological perspective. I also don't recall the discussion of Scriptures that you mention, but could be I simply don't remember. Did you provide specific Scriptures to discuss or just make a general statement of some sort?
As I've said before, we need to keep these forums focused on their purpose. If, however, you would like to engage in private discussions regarding Christianity and Judaism you may contact me through private messages or e-mail. Just please remember that I cannot respond to an anonymous message. You must be logged in as a registered user for me to respond to private messages or you must provide an e-mail address to which I can respond.
If I may make one comment, however, not all Christians hate Jews. Some of us, in fact, feel a high kinship to Jews and it's counterproductive to dissolving stereotypes to continue to attack those who support you.
A topic of discussion that we could explore privately regarding Judaism or publicly regarding CS is if the "New Testament" is wrong regarding the criteria for getting into Heaven, what is correct? In the words of an oldtime preacher, "If you were to die tonight, found yourself face-to-face with the Creator of the universe, and He were to ask 'why should I let you into my Heaven?'", what would be your response?
The John MacArthur audio was heavily edited, so I don't know if it accurately portrayed his understanding of Scriptures. It does not accurately represent my understanding of Scriptures, Old or New.
If you wish to stick to the topics and purposes of these forums, your posts will not be edited or deleted so long as you abide by reasonable standards of conduct including the terms and conditions for participating in these forums. You can even say something complimentary of MBE, but please remember that you are not alone in your privilege of expressing yourself.
Do Go Be Man
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Posted Tuesday, December 18, 2007 11:41 AM
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Thank you for posting me.
I do not know how to set up links, but here are the You Tube topics that I pasted and copied. I think anyone could go to You Tube and find them by just typing in Billy Graham.
Robert Schuller And Billy Graham Speaking Wide Acceptance
BILLY GRAHAM SAYS JESUS ISNT THE ONLY WAY TO GOD EXPOSED
GREEDY LIAR FALSE BILLY GRAHAM DENIES JESUS CHRIST SALVATION
Why Billy Graham is going to Hell
My question is, "Do you feel Billy Graham is going to hell with Mary Baker Eddy along with the Jews, since they are saying pretty much the same thing?"
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Posted Tuesday, December 18, 2007 2:44 PM
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Marcos,
My question is, "Do you feel Billy Graham is going to hell with Mary Baker Eddy along with the Jews, since they are saying pretty much the same thing?"
The written word often lacks the cues that the spoken word offers. Given the continuing context of your posts, I find it difficult to consider your posts on topic and consider them perhaps disingenuous and distracting.
To answer your question, however, I have no idea who is and who is not going in one direction or the other.
That is entirely a matter for God to decide. YouTube offers no credible relevancy concerning the question. Even if Billy Graham, MBE, and the Jews were saying pretty much the same thing, God provided the only credible source on the subject in His word.
As a matter of personal note, I will not be surprised to see Billy Graham, MBE, and a great many Jews in Heaven. I know of at least one Jew who will be there - Jesus Christ. I believe that His Apostles will be there as well (they were all Jewish).
If I may respectfully remind you, these forums are for the purposes of "sharing questions, comments, and experiences related to people's involvement in Christian Science. Our participants tend to be former Christian Scientists and people with loved ones in Christian Science." How do you fit into those purposes? What is your involvement with CS? Are you a CS convert? There were many CSists in my area of Jewish heritage.
Please understand that if your posts continue to avoid the purposes and conditions of these forums, they will not be approved for posting. Claims of censorship are not appropriate as we would also not encourage discussions of NFL standings or the weather.
Do Go Be Man
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Posted Wednesday, September 24, 2008 5:54 AM
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I saw it last night for the first time and it broke my heart. I'm still in shock. I had to keep asking myself if he really meant that and was misunderstood. I'm totally in shock.
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Posted Thursday, September 25, 2008 10:55 AM
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| I just watched the video of Billy Grahm and Larry King on CNN. Larry King asked Billy Grahm if he thought that Mormons and others were going to hell. Grahm said that it wasn't his place to judge them it would be God's place to judge. When King asked Grahm about others making statements about these folks going to hell. Grahm said that it was their right to say so and it is true.... The video cuts there and if I know anything about Grahm he probably finished the statement saying something to the effect of Jesus is the way to God as the scriptures say. I honestly don't know what he said beyond the last word of the video but I have never heard Billy Grahm say something mean about anyone, who ever posted that video cut it at just the right place to make him look bad. Further if Grahm were to have said something distasteful the media would have been on a smear fest and I think we would all know what he said. If the Bible is correct a Jew would not go to hell for being a Jew but for the rejection of the true and living God and that would apply to anyone who rejects the God of the Bible. May God Bless You, Al
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