Posted Wednesday, January 16, 2008 8:52 AM
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Dear Anonymous,
Your post is so kind and compassionate that I hate to take issue with it. I would like to say, however, that it is important to me that I 'do my best' based on reality, not a false premise. If I, as a gardener, fail to scatter my spring -blooming perennial seeds in the Fall (the correct season for my planting zone), or trim my spring-blooming shrubs incorrectly in the late winter, I will have bare soil and naked shrubs. I will end up disappointed and unsuccessful. None of us does our best all the time in the first place....that is the nature of humanity. But if we are sincerely working hard to accomplish something while approaching it with incorrect knowledge in the first place, we are just as fruitless as if we had hardly tried.
It always puzzles me when people point out the failure of modern medicine in an effort to excuse the suffering so often seen in practicing Christian Science families. Ultimately, we are all going to fall ill and die! In the meantime, it seems odd to me to overlook the truth of the successes in medicine. If you have received your tetanus vaccine, you will be safe working in my garden. If you have not, you will be at risk of a very serious, life-threatening illness. That is simply a fact. A parent who fails to provide that tetanus vaccine to a child is not doing her best at all. She is ignoring reality, and making a choice for a child who cannot.
I would also like to point out that the end result of radical reliance is not always death. It is often just needless suffering. To me, that is just as serious, and it is very sad.
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Posted Friday, June 06, 2008 6:44 PM
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| "My mother was so obsessed with her teacher, her practioner, and the "who's who" of the church, all the while neglecting her daughters, ..." I came across this in a recent post by Sharon and wanted to paste it here and make a few comments. *In my experience this is one of the common themes of the way Christian Science is practiced. This is yet another example. *If Mark is still around I would like to hear if he observed people obsessing/worshiping their teachers and/or craving to be in their presence, and practitioners exercising power over their patients. My husbands teacher was from the same area of the Detroit suburbs that you lived in. You probably knew her (E.J.) and maybe saw her minions. *I would like to know where the phrase "the Dear Practitioner" came from. Is this common CS lingo? I was incensed to read that in an email my husband wrote to his male practitioner/teacher...that I was not supposed to see. My husband never sent me emails that said "The Dear Square Peg made a wonderful Thanksgiving dinner for the family" or anything like that! But he is OH so tender with his teacher??? This is just another example of CS wierdness. What makes practitioners or teachers SOOO saintly that thier followers have to call them Dear. My husband doesnt know this guy especially well or on any personal level...but he is Dear? Do you think the doctor that saved his life over and over recently is called Dear? NO!!..but the practitioner/teacher who could NOT heal him is Dear. Again, this is just plain cultish. It is exhalting people unnaturally because they supposedly have studied a religion more than they have. I know that members of a congregation do not feel that the minister is to be worshipped because he got a doctorate in religion. Square Peg
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Posted Friday, June 06, 2008 8:26 PM
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| I think this is common in my religious/ecclesiatic situations. To coin a term, we can call it "guru worship." It's always improper, as we are to focus and bond with the Lord. After all, "There is one intermediary between God and man, the man, Jesus Christ." But part of our fallen condition manifests itself in setting up intermediaries, be they human, "saints," exalted beings, angels, demidgods, or some kind of representative icon. I propose a tentative hypothesis, and invite comments and criticism. As this incorrect dynamic seems to be especially prevalent among the cults, can we conclude that the more fallen (heretical) a doctrine is, the more likely we will find some form of spiritual-hero worship?
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Posted Friday, June 06, 2008 8:52 PM
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| Phoenix Rising, It may be that it is a normal thing in the Christian Science household to be constantly hearing this "dear" thing. I remember my mother who practically idol worshiped these people. For several years she spent most of her time in Minnesota taking care of her practitioner friend who had been in a car accident. We lived in Indiana. So my entire freshman and sophomore years in high school, most of the time my mother was gone. And when she would come home she would sit and cry wanting to be up there with this woman (who by then was on her feet, after having quite a bit of medical care). When my mother died, I came across these letters to this woman that literally made me sick and they all started with "my dear". Then there was the teacher in Chicago........I wish I knew how many hours I sat outside this woman's office waiting on my mother as she practically kneeled at that woman's feet. And everything that happened in our house had to be checked first with the "dear teacher". I just think the whole thing is just plain weird! Sharon
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Posted Saturday, June 07, 2008 10:23 AM
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I would like to know where the phrase "the Dear Practitioner" came from. Is this common CS lingo? While many Christian Scientists idolize their practitioners and give them WAY too much influence over their lives, I don't remember hearing the term "dear practitioner" used in everyday conversation. The people I was around would just refer to their "practitioner" rather then their "dear practitioner" when talking about them. (Keep in mind that I'm talking about casual conversation -- not letters or private conversations which would vary greatly depending upon who was involved.)
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Posted Saturday, June 07, 2008 5:57 PM
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| I see them use "Dear One" alot in their letters.
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Posted Friday, August 22, 2008 10:31 AM
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| Practitioners are just lay people who claim to have some spiritual powers garnered through the study of Mary Baker Eddy's philosophy. If they were Medical Doctors they would all be in jail for malpractice. I don't understand how any human being with any compassion at all can stand by and do nothing as their patients needlessly suffer and die. The irony here, is the practitioner will never blame themselves for their patients suffering, but instead, will blame the patient for their failure to "demonstrate" healing.
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Posted Friday, August 22, 2008 12:29 PM
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| People should remember that practitioners receive all of two weeks' training before they're "qualified" to make life-and-death decisions. In many cases, they haven't pushed their client to seek medical treatment because illness isn't real. Imagine doctors with the scant training CSers get? I think not.
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Posted Friday, August 22, 2008 2:33 PM
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A question I have for those still in Christian Science; why bother with attempted healing at all? The "truth is the truth". If you believe in CS, then a successful or unsuccessful demonstration can' t change this. Is there really a need to prove anything? Why just not succumb to mortal illusion in medical areas as you do for 99% of the rest of your lives?
What do I mean by this?
I assume you breathe, drink water, eat, etc. (All somewhat agreeable to human or mortal nature). What about the less agreeable aspects of submitting to mortal mind including sleep (imagine what you could accomplish if you could work 24 hours a day?) using the toilet (forgive the graphic illustration, but why is this necessary if man is perfect?), brushing teeth, using a deodorant, etc. etc. etc., The truth is, if you are honest enough to admit it to yourself, you spend 24/7 succumbing to mortal illusion just by going through your daily routines. In doing the things that I just mentioned, are you proving daily that man is exclusively spiritual? No, you are proving that he is just the opposite-both material and spiritual.
Surprisingly, nobody every brought up in CS Sunday School the fact that these areas of mortal mind are accepted without question. Pure intellectual and spiritual hypocrisy.
John
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Posted Friday, August 22, 2008 4:44 PM
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| I always wondered that too. Why is the dividing line at the medical point? I have seen such horrible results and suffering. Its like if they did stop brushing their teeth (because they are really just mortal illusions) then all their teeth would rot and fall out. If they stopped wearing glasses they couldn't read their Science and Health. If they stopped feeding their mortal bodies (illusions) they would starve....I was always taught it was because Mrs. Eddy says we are to "emerge gently". Why do so many of them carry it to such a tragic ending or why suffer with an illness only to end up in an emergency room or with a disease that has progressed beyond any ability of medical science to fix (but could have been prevented or cured earlier)? God does not need us to be human sacrifices and I know he doesn't want us to suffer to prove him real. Jesus did that for us already. The ones that deny it is taken to such extremes should just find some other church because if what she says is all so true, it would work and more times than not it doesn't. Other churchs have answered prayers and even healings, believe in a loving good God and allow MAN to live and express God and his goodness. There is no need to take such an extreme ridiculous stance on matter. The Christian Scientists are so inconsistent in their logic and behaviors. Another irksome point: Notice how they always give the glory to Christian Science.."IT" works in their lives as if "IT" the philosophy is what is working...It should be GOD not a "process". Not only do they glorify Mary Baker Eddy, but they glorify a "system of thinking" instead of the all powerful, majestic, and awesome GOD alone!
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