Posted Monday, January 29, 2007 12:24 AM
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This comes from my family's Christian Science library, which I inherited. I am retyping from old onionskin carbon copies that are dated from March 1959, when my grandmother was a C.S. practitioner. I don't know where they came from before that; if someone knows more about them please let me know!
Birdstrike
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THE WEATHER
"Now when there is the claim that the weather is sultry, handle it and you will see a breeze spring up; if it is cold, handle it; it is all in Mind ever the same, harmonious. God did not make sultry weather, etc; then if we through belief have made it, we must unmake it. When it looks like thunder and lightning, handle it; there is no sultry atmosphere to cause thunder and lightning. When I first came to Concord (before hypnotism and mesmerism joined hands to work upon me) there was no snow the first winter at all, and no thunderstorms the first year. When sultry, I would close my eyes for a moment, then open them and leaves would all be stirring; a breeze had sprung up. We make our own atmosphere. These things are easier to handle than sickness. I used to handle them until I forgot about it. Lately I have attended to the work and only kept above the effects. When Clara was here, I would speak about the thunderstorms and she would work alone, and they would all disappear. You can do this, and if you are not at first successful, do not get discouraged; keep on trying. When you have the first indication - - forestall it.
"When I have made a storm disappear, I did not argue, "there are no clouds." I said, God's face is there and I see it," and the storm would break and dissappear.
"Handle the weather just as you do any belief of mortal mind.
"You are not a Christian Scientist until you do control the weather."
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Posted Monday, January 29, 2007 9:16 AM
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| Birdstrike, Interesting piece! In the future, please avoid posting something unless you have better documentation about its origin. It's hard to know whether the the kind of thing you posted is myth or genuine. In this case I'll let your post stand because I have information to back up the idea that MBE expected her students to be able to control the weather. It comes from the writings of her personal secretary Adam Dickey and I discuss it in the chapter of my book entitled "Mystical Manipulation." I'll just copy the section from my book (I can get away with this because I hold the copyright ) Here it is: "The weather—Mrs. Eddy blamed animal magnetism for unpleasant weather. She detested thunderstorms and heavy snowfalls, as she considered them to be manifestations of error. She appointed members of her household and also a special committee in Boston to deal with the weather on a spiritual level. Her explanation of their role in this matter provides a good explanation of how a Christian Science treatment works: A Christian Scientist has no business attempting to control or govern the weather any more than he has a right to attempt to control or govern sickness, but he does know, and must know, that God governs the weather and no other influence can be brought to bear upon it. When we destroy mortal mind’s belief that it is a creator, and that it produces all sorts of weather, good as well as bad, we shall then realize God’s perfect weather and be the recipients of His bounty in that respect. God’s weather is always right. A certain amount of rain and sunshine is natural and normal, and we have no right to interfere with the stately operations of divine wisdom in regulating meteorological conditions. . . . the weather belongs to God, and when we destroy the operations of mortal mind and leave the question of regulating the weather to God, we shall have weather conditions as they should be.21 Dickey continues, I have heard our Leader describe in a number of instances how she has dissipated a thunder cloud by simply looking upon it and bringing to bear upon mortal mind’s concept of this manifestation of discord what God really has prepared for us, and she illustrated this by a wave of her hand indicating the total disappearance of the thunder cloud and its accompanying threat.22 Regardless of her statement that no Christian Scientist has the right to control the weather, the result of her orders was that her students were held directly responsible for bad weather. This is illustrated by their reaction to Dickey’s announcement that he had been delayed by a widespread snowstorm while traveling to Mrs. Eddy’s home for the first time. Upon hearing the news, Calvin Frye stated that Mrs. Eddy should be told at once about the widespread nature of the storm. Dickey explains: It seems that this particular snowfall had been the cause of considerable damage, and the workers in her household felt that they might be excused for their failure to control the snow if Mrs. Eddy were informed that the storm was almost country-wide and not confined to New England.23 One of her “watches,” dated 15 January 1910, asked her workers to “make a law that there shall be no more snow this season”24—and this was in New England in January! [References in the text are from: Adan H. Dickey, Memories of Mary Baker Eddy, pp. 19, 7,18. The passage quoted is from L. Kramer, The Religion That Kills, pp. 120-22.]
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Posted Monday, January 29, 2007 11:06 AM
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| When I was a child we had a home on an inlet of Long Island Sound. Our property was prone to flooding, we had a practiced drill for clearing the basement when this was imminent. Once when we had a hurricane, the water was coming up to the house, and while we were jacking up the appliances and things, it stopped--and retreated! My mother, a Journal-listed practitioner, said that she had been praying over the storm, and at a certain point she knew it wouldn't affect us. The wind had changed! Years later, the natural explanation occurred to me. Long Island Sound is shaped something like a funnel, wide on the Eastern opening, and very narrow at its West ("Hellgage," at the East River, NYC). As the circular motion of the hurricane proceed on its course, the leading edge of the hurricane whipped the wind into the Sound. Then, as it departed, the trailing edge pushed it out! A miracle! My, such metaphysics! Moving on, here is a bit of common-sense theology of nature given to us by a humble itinerant preacher: he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
(Matthew 5.45b
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Posted Tuesday, January 30, 2007 3:38 PM
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Thank you both for your comments, and for the background, Linda! And yes, I'll be very careful about posting in the future.
Listening to MBE and the Scriptures side-by-side, I always did get a sense that the two didn't mesh, even from the beginning. Having finally chucked defective part out of the equation, I'm so thrilled to be delving into what they really say right now.
And in the end, isn't this a priceless example of how far man will go, with what is really the same, old, original sin? WE want to be gods ourselves!
We reject the idea that there are laws to be followed, even if we have to reject Truth itself. A fool's paradise!
Birdstrike
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Posted Saturday, July 05, 2008 2:53 PM
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| This morning I was remembering my mother-in-law's remarks over the years concerning the weather. It was one of the first things that got me to thinking that I was mixed up in some kooky religion. I decided to check this forum to see if anything had been posted about weather....and sure enough.... If we were talking about having company to the lake house my MIL would insert a comment like...'You KNOW there will be no rain" . Or if we were going to have a picnic...a similar remark. I remember thinking...well what if the Christian Scientist next door wants it to rain on his water starved garden that day....is he going to KNOW that it will rain? She often took credit for changing the weather to suit her current needs. I had to wonder though, what the problem had been when it rained for one of her family events where a sunny day would have been preferable. Did her CS family ever THINK...gee mom takes credit one day for shooing a thunderstorm away from a party, so why doesnt that work all the time? Maybe she really didnt send it away but some wind did. Reading the crazy comments in this thread is just startling to me and I have lots of questions and comments. *How many of you were taught to control the weather. Did you really believe that you could? And if you could, did you find it successful all the time..and if not.. how did you reconcile that with your belief that weather can be controlled? *In light of the hundreds of people who die each year because of the "weather", in tornadoes, hurricanes, snowstorms, lightning...doesnt a Christian Scientist wonder why we even HAVE weather issues, if practitioners/teachers/all CSers out there could just be thinking it away? *I would gather that the rationale behind controlling the weather is that there IS no earth, and thus no weather right? Its all a dream, of sorts, and in the perfect spirital idea everything would be just puuuurfect right? (Of course, Christian Scientists have only a PERSONAL idea of what perfect is because its pretty clear to me there is no real logic to the way they think. Perfect is what YOU need on that specific day....like sunshine on the picnic, rain on the tomatoes, no snow for the traveller while the CS ski resort owner would be KNOWING there WOULD be snow.) So why then the comment by MBE that "God governs the weather" ? What weather? Isnt that admitting the planet? Also, I just dont get why rain should be not of God, snow not of God, sultry weather not of God. *"We make our own atmosphere" This would follow then that CSers would make the BEST astronauts because they would not need a space suit right? *I DO wonder why MBE did not start talking like there ought to be daylight 24/7. Why put up with night when you can have day all the time...if there is no spinning planet and thus no weather system, then why even night and day? *I visited the Christian Science.com web site and found the "testimony of a practitioner who tells of seeing a cat being brought to the vet and seeing it from a distance he declares it dead, so he did his work and the cat is brought out of the vet alive and he, of course, decides that its his healing. I relate this to the weather as its JUST the same self congratulatory CSSPEAK that flows out of the mouths of these self rightous people who love to tell everyone they can send thunder clouds away at will and raise the dead.....but...they cant seem to do it all the time. I just wonder then, if he had this power to raise pets from the dead why he doesnt volunteer to go there and do it everytime. Honestly, I certainly would...if I had the power to do that...it would seem a horrible crime not to do it. Or volunteer at the local emergency room at least one night a week for gosh sakes!! *This just leads me to ask you all this question. I have witnessed Christian Scientists literally putting their lives on the line because they listen to this CSSPEAK and in thier hearts they BELIEVE they can get a healing from the most dire illnesses. YET, their whole lives they have witnessed CSers including themselves, get eyeglasses to fix sight problems, get broken bones set, cavities filled, and hearing aids for hearing problems. I have seen them suffer with non-life threatening illnesses for years without heallings....but when something serious happens they believe THAT will be healed. Tell me how you rationalize not being able to heal your eyesight but gambling your life that you can heal congestive heart failure? Its all just SO crazy, and people are suffering and dying for it. WHAT are these people thinking? WHAT was Mark's mother thinking when he is not getting a healinig and suffering...and she claims to everyone she healed him? Its just like this guy who claims to have brought the cat back from the dead...its exhalting themselves in the eyes of others and its just so anti-christian...to my way of thinking. *sigh* Square Peg
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