 Posted Monday, February 05, 2007 4:11 PM
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I graduated from Principia College and hadn't been back in 4 years - until last weekend. The timing was perfect. The campus is pretty much in turmoil. A brief recap -
- CEO Stuart Jenkins has been cutting budgets and encouraging a "Trim to Grow" policy
- Jenkins was recently given a raise of more than $100,000 and the board was asked to keep it a secret
- Several trustees have resigned
- George Moffett and Elaine Follis have been forced out
- People are questioning the decision to take on $20 million in debt for the new athletic facilities when the "head coaches" of the swimming and diving teams are both 24 years old and the golf team has been eliminated.
The website Truth at Principia - www.truthatprincipia.org - is run by a couple of (CS) alums, Tobin Sparfeld and Hal Martin. Emotions are high on campus. Seems like they're having meetings every day. This is more interesting than Desperate Housewives!
C'03 Anon
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Posted Monday, February 05, 2007 4:27 PM
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C'03 Anon,
I approved this topic and your post without verifying it. I don't doubt things are as you portray them, however, it would be very useful if someone could provide additional source materials on this controversial topic, preferably directly from a Prin source. I looked at the Truth at Prin site which referred to the statement from Prin, but cannot find mention of the situation on the Prin sites.
Do Go Be Man
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Posted Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:24 PM
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Dear C'03 Anon,
First of all, I am sad to know that you would want to put Principia down. Just think about that, you’re putting down the school that you graduated from in 2003.
Before you start posting things that aren’t true, you need to pray and ask yourself “Is what I’m writing going to support the cause of Principia?" You need to pray and know that Mr. Jenkins is listening to God and is doing what God is leading him to do. I personally know Mr. Jenkins, and I know what he's going is supporting Principia. His love for Principia is HUGE... and I know that he won’t hurt Principia.
So for those who are reading this and the one below that "C'03 Anon" wrote, just letting you know, that what C'03 Anon is not true... please don’t view this as being right. He’s only trying to hurt Principia. And that isn’t being Christ like. And think about, why would he talk trash about the school that he and I went to? My last year at Prin was in 2005. And my experience at Principia was amazing. Because of my love for God and the staff from Prin, I know that everything will come to an end. We don’t need rumors spreading. It’s not helping you and its not helping the Principia Corp.
Thanks
Please email me if you or anyone else has questions.
Michael Trevail
michaeltrevail@principia.edu
Michael A. Trevail
michaeltrevail@principia.edu
www.principia.edu
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Posted Thursday, February 08, 2007 12:16 AM
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The 64,000 question here, Mike, is: Are These Things True?!
If not, then you have a point - and you should call him on it by giving us the facts.
But as it stands, you've only tried to shame critical opinion, claim to know that Almighty God is on your boss' side, and call "anon" a liar. I don't know anything about this situation, but without facts, this type of response will sound much like simple damage control. And if you are trying to invoke a code of silence, they're not being un-Christlike at all - they simply have much higher standards than you do.
But it is a good idea to pray that the truth comes out. Truth = love in Christian Science.
Birdstrike
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Posted Thursday, February 08, 2007 7:51 AM
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Thanks for your reply.... Im not trying to fight any one, I just want people to know whats right instead of writing things that arent true. I do in fact know whats going on since Im part of the Principia community and know the family really well. But do to the love for the family, and school. Im not going to state any facts one because its not right because people will argue my points even though no one on this site really knows. And 2 I've been asked to keep it quite and let the healing go forward.
Thanks,
michael
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Posted Thursday, February 08, 2007 8:36 AM
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Michael,
I just want people to know whats right instead of writing things that arent true. I do in fact know whats going on since Im part of the Principia community and know the family really well. But do to the love for the family, and school. Im not going to state any facts one because its not right because people will argue my points even though no one on this site really knows. And 2 I've been asked to keep it quite and let the healing go forward.
The organizers of the web site that C'03 Anon mentioned, Truth at Principia - www.truthatprincipia.org, appear to believe what they have posted. Are you telling us that has no basis of fact?
As a CSist in the '70s, TMC and others tried to tell us the Kerry Letters had no basis of fact. Problem was I knew first hand there was at least some truth to what Reginald Kerry was writing. Did the Prin BOD not release a statement and were there no controversial actions taken by them?
Do Go Be Man
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Posted Thursday, February 08, 2007 2:57 PM
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Michael,
I don't see how anything I posted was putting Principia down. That's nice that your experience there was amazing. I had a good time there myself. I do tend to be overly critical about Principia because I feel sorry for all the people there, trying to live up to an impossible "Science" that isn't really a science at all. I just know that a lot of people who check the Christian Way Forums would be interested to see the "Truth at Principia" site.
Unfortunately, Do Go Be, I can't find anything posted on an "official" Prin site to either corroborate or offer a different point of view from what's on "Truth at Principia." I guess people will have to decide for themselves.
-Anon C'03
aka Courtney Bogott Moser
courtney@principia.edu
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Posted Thursday, February 08, 2007 3:27 PM
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Courtney,
Unfortunately, Do Go Be, I can't find anything posted on an "official" Prin site to either corroborate or offer a different point of view from what's on "Truth at Principia." I guess people will have to decide for themselves.
That nothing is posted on an official Prin site validates your comments as well as Michael's. Funny how that works.
Not being a Prin grad, I don't feel I have a dog in this fight. I do, however, lean towards fairness. The journalist in me usually seeks out corroborative sources whether it regards current events, things that happened around the turn of the century (20th, in this context), or 2,000 years ago. Sometimes, however, a single source is all that's willing to discuss an issue.
Michael, while very metaphysical, I suppose, silence and denial does not always best serve one's cause or best interests.
Do Go Be Man
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Posted Thursday, February 08, 2007 5:18 PM
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You're absolutely correct, Do Go; without any verifiable facts, there is certainly more heat than light here. But it is, however, a wonderful example of Christian Science headgaming!
But I don't think Michael is being very metaphysical. If I were a Christian Scientist, this is how I might respond:
"Mary Baker Eddy certainly held the truth as paramount, and of all the phrases in the Bible, the "Ye Shall Know the Truth. . ." was the one chosen to be publicly displayed in every church. Not only is Michael working against the revelation of the truth, he is also failing to see that the dissenters are God's perfect children and the all-harmoniousness of this situation (his "personal animosity" is palpable). He even ascribes God's plan to a single side of the issue, and as such, he fails to see that God is All-in-all! He clearly needs to stand a better porter at the door of his thoughts, and purify his though by re-reading Mrs. Eddy's Rule for Motives and Acts. . . "
I'm so glad to be through with Christian Science. . .
Birdstrike
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Posted Thursday, February 08, 2007 8:27 PM
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Wow... you really have guts to say Im not metaphyical.... WOW
You dont know where I work and what I do. You dont know my envolvement in the church... so you shouldnt be speaking. I am a Christian Scientist and proud to me one. As for you guys, why would there be an offical site that would tell the problems of Principia. Im glad you finally realized that there is nothing on the web about this except that truthatprin site.
I would love to get to know who you are... I read your profile and your from Nor CAL... where about.
You have no right to say that Im not being spirituality intune because you guys dont want to hear the bad things that are going around Prin. Like I said, YES I DO KNOW WHATS GOING ON, NO I WONT TELL YOU AND THIS STUPID SITE because one what is Christian Way? A group who use to be Christian Scientist who dont like it... so we dont need people like you giving us more *** to handle.
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