 Posted Tuesday, September 04, 2007 10:21 AM
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| Anonymous, Do Go Be Man is right that your questions really belong on a new thread. I'll use this post to address the ones that just need a short answer. We can make a new thread for the ones that might need more discussion (that will probably come later on today). 3. Does who I am effect the way you respond to questions that just ask for an honest, full, and clear answer? I don't know who you are since you are posting anonymously. Even if I did know who you are, your identity wouldn't affect my answers. 5. When you say, "forced to attend," do you mean that some go having been sent there by parents who just want them to go there? If that is the case, is it only parents, or are there other pressures that force these kids to go there? If so, what else is there? I have heard of some kids whose parents would only pay for their education if they attended Prin. I suspect it's because the parents wanted their kids to be exposed to the CS environment at Prin (Prin is a college for CSists). I don't think there was anything more to it than that. 7. And what leadership problems at Principia are you referring to? Are they the ones listed above?
I'm referring to the issues introduced and addressed in this thread.
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Posted Tuesday, September 04, 2007 2:01 PM
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Posted Thursday, September 20, 2007 4:57 PM
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Hi, friends:
A friend of mine, Jeff Williams, who graduated from Prin in the mid-1980s and who was Principia's chief advancement officer, died earlier this year. Did anyone else on this forum know him and the circumstances surrounding his death? I gather his death was sudden from the way a current Prin prof mentioned it to me, without elaboriating, of course.
I remember him from the soccer team and as a wonderful member of Brooks North House. He made that house a joy to life in. Any info would be appreciated!
Garey G. Ris (C'88)
also ex-CS
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Posted Wednesday, September 26, 2007 11:36 AM
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gary,
i asked my brother (still cs) what happened to jeff and, not surpisingly, he didn't know. probably wouldn't ask himself. development trips were cancelled shortly thereafter. a sad loss. don't expect any real answers and of course, any speculation online or otherwise without the truth does a disservice to the family. not to intimate that you were trolling for gossip, but only as a concerned fellow classmate. when it comes to questions about a christian scientist's death, the veil of secrecy rivals that of the cosa nostra. but you knew that.
bhn brother
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Posted Wednesday, September 26, 2007 12:43 PM
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| I think we should all just settle down and know that malicious animal magnatism has no power or hold on us.
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Posted Wednesday, September 26, 2007 2:03 PM
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| fH, 
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Posted Saturday, October 13, 2007 7:16 PM
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In addition to the truth at principia website and the trustee web link on the Principia.edu website - there is a third website that has done a good job in providing actual source material regarding the current situation.
that website is www.prinperforce.squarespace.com
As in most situations like this current one at Principia - there are two viewpoints. There is a very vocal group who is angry and incensed about the changes that have happened over the course of the last four years.
There is also a large group of very quiet supporters who are so grateful that someone is finally dealing with real issues that have been lingering at Principia for 30+ years. Are you aware that the St. Louis campus has had the largest growth in enrollment in 10 years? That Alumni giving is actually up from 15% to almost 20% in the past 3 years? - Key indicators of the health of the campus show that the improvements/changes made on the St. Louis campus are reaping rewards.
I do know for a fact that the statement by Nate Smith regarding his mother is completely false. And outside legal counsel proved that there was no gender discrimination AT ALL. In fact Stuart Jenkins has hired more women into leadership roles than any other CEO/Chairman in Principia history. Sorry, Nate - the record is clear on that one.
I can also comment on one anonymous poster who claims that Stuart Jenkins is "doing back door deals" regarding development. That certainly doesn't make any sense - as there is nothing happening on development except research and planning. If you think the Board of Trustees at Principia would approve of "back door deals" - you are dead wrong. And it can be proven that you are dead wrong.
I'm also curious to know since when did the college newspaper "The Pilot" all of the sudden become the source for factual information? It is not as if those reporters can gain access to confidential trustee correspondence for the newspaper. I'm 100% positive that there is clear evidence in source documents that proves The Pilot has been completely one-sided on this current situation.
I hope that all those who care about Principia will support the idea that the school was founded upon - and not support one person over another. That is just divisive - and isn't going to get us anywhere.
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Posted Saturday, October 20, 2007 2:32 PM
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| Stu Jenkins has resigned. Many of us are very happy that he finally made this decision. http://www.prin.edu/trustees/correspondence/10182007.shtml George Moffett was an awesome CEO and I took several Prin Pace trips with him and his wife. Extremely intelligent, wrote for the CS Monitor and other papers. Also regarding whether this story is true - the facts given are based on emails from many many people, including those between Stu and George, their secretaries, Board emails etc. All these hundreds of emails are on the prinedu. site and are available for everyone to read.
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Posted Saturday, October 20, 2007 5:18 PM
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[quote]Prin Upper School and College Alum (10/20/2007)
Stu Jenkins has resigned. Many of us are very happy that he finally made this decision.
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Finally?? He made that decision a long time ago and the board refused to accept his resignation at that time. I find it interesting that the truthatprincipia.org site hasn't published his letter to the community that was posted on the other site http://prinperforce.squarespace.com/stuart-jenkins-letter-new-1018/ . Very interesting when a site like that only publishes what serves their interests instead of both sides of the story. I'm not saying either "side" is right or wrong, but the witch hunt mentality has done nothing to serve the Principia community.Moderator's note: The above link doesn't work although the address is correct. To access the letter, click this link.
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Posted Saturday, October 20, 2007 7:02 PM
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Your comment about reading e-mails is so incredible. Yes, George Moffett's secretary released confidential information to The Pilot - she stole e-mails off of Stuart's desk and believes she has been a whistle blower.
On the other hand - Stuart's secretary has not done that, and she has access to thousands of pages of e-mails. (talk about integrity) As far as I know, the only person who has seen both sides of the story in terms of e-mails and correspondence was the facilitator who wrote the resolution report. His report was pretty clear that Stuart did nothing wrong.
Stuart's resignation is a sad day for Principia. Finally someone was making the hard decisions that had to be made, acting with courage in the face of hatred - and dignity throughout the last 10 months - and now the folks who screamed the loudest, made the most fuss and behaved in the most UNCHRISTIAN manner I have ever seen, feel like they have won some kind of victory. They should be ashamed of themselves.
If these people think they have demonstrated Christianity - much less Christian Science - I want no part in that.Moderator's note: the opinions expressed by the anonymous contributor are their own, have not been independently verified, and do not necessarily express the opinions and views of the moderators, contributors, or host of this forum.
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