 Posted Tuesday, October 17, 2006 4:23 PM
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followingHim:
I've just been reading through the posts on this thread. I think this is a really disgraceful comment to make about someone who recently died, and is totally lacking in anything approaching Christian charity. It's not just uncharitable on the surface: it's uncharitable, and therefore it's unChristian.
I don't know who the "Him" is whom you're following, but I don't recognize Him from the Bible.
Erol
<< Anonymous wrote,
That poor man didn't have a chance. But, I suppose he's in a better place. No?
Well......no.
It may seem uncharitable on the surface, but I emphatically state that those who hold to Eddy's metaphysical "Christ-idea" and do not believe in the Jesus Christ of the Bible, time, and Eternity are forever lost. In old-time theological terms, that means damned.
There is no gentle way of saying it. But this little saying (source unknown to me) might be of use:
For those whose destiny is Heaven, Earth is the closest thing to Hell they will ever know.
But for those who go to Hell, Earth is the closest they will have ever been to Heaven. >>
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Posted Wednesday, October 18, 2006 7:34 PM
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Erol,
To answer you, and to keepl this thread on-topic, I have started a thread in "Outreach to Loved Ones in Christian Science," titled, "Speaking the Truth in Love."
See you there!
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Posted Saturday, July 18, 2009 12:33 PM
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Getting this old thread back on theme....
A Boston weekly, The Boston Courant, which focuses on real estate, reports (July 17-23, 2009) that TMC is getting tenants for the high-rise property at 177 Huntington Ave. There was not much in specifics, and a lot of the copy just rehashed the problems with the local commercial market, noting that median rates in April were $49.22 sq.ft, and are now at 42.85, but a tenant can get in to #177 "in the low $30s per sq.ft."
"We have very attractive rental rates," said Debbi Lawrence, community relations manager for the church. (P.1)
The high-rise has 24 floors with 8,000 sq.ft. per floor, not counting the ground floor lobby, so a small or mid-size company could comfortably take one or two floors. After almost a year of church vacancy and marketing, the Courant reports that 88,000 sq. ft. total are leased out under 5 contracts. So that puts them at a bit under 50% occupancy, charging bargain rates in a prime location during a very bad market.
No mention was made of the low-rise "Colonnade" building. The Back Bay Courant does not appear to have a website.
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Posted Saturday, February 27, 2010 4:00 PM
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Even with membership and spiritual impact in grievous decline, The Mother Church has real estate, motivation, and sufficient financial resources or access to funding to develop further its Back Bay/Fenway campus. The Boston Herald http://bostonherald.com/business/real_estate//view.bg?articleid=1235813 reports (Feb 26, 27, 2010) that TMC is seeking to to put up two "mid-rise" and one "high-rise buildings on the corners of the Center. (A search of the Boston Globe on this was negative.)
These would be:
A 271- foot "mid-rise" on Huntington Ave, abutting the Sunday School building, close to Horticultural Hall (which TMC owns & leases), near Mass Ave. The article did not mention the purpose for this structure. Also,
A 532-foot High-rise residential tower on Dalton Street, on the Northeast corner of the property. This would be across the street from the Sheraton, where the clever, underground carousel truck depot is. Next to this, at the corner of Dalton and Belvedere, across from the Hilton, would be:
A 271-foot "mid-rise" hotel. Boston is desirous of joining the elite few of convention-destination cities in the US, and needs a major expansion of hotel facilities--especially on the South Boston waterfront, though.
For those of you, who have not followed TMC's real estate activities, a couple of years ago they laid off large numbers of their church staff, and consolidated the remaining employees in the "One Norway Street" building (CS Publishing Society of olden days), which is shared with the MBE Museum. The high rise at 121 Huntington (next to the fountain) and the low-rise "Colonnade" building (along the plaza/reflecting pond) have been put on the office rental market. All this is being attempted in a significantly negative market.
I again posit my prophesy, or, if you will, "prediction:" that the abundance of financial assets on the top, looming over the absence of a membership below, will lead to the crash and demise of "institutional Christian Science as we know it." Then, stand back and be amazed at the scrambling and grabbing for assets as various foundations, institutes, trusts, and other such financial instruments are set up so that the higher echelons of church management take care of themselves--and each other!
Just because they deny the existence of physical "unReality" doesn't mean they don't appreciate the value of well-situated reality!
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Posted Sunday, August 21, 2011 3:13 AM
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It appears (such a CS term! or should I say, it seems) that TMC will put up three new buildings. Obviously, there is no ecclesiastical need for them--it's profitable, pure and simple. The Boston Herald reports that two mid-rise structures will be built. One at Huntington Avenue near Massachusetts, 291 feet high, alongside the pie-shaped Sunday School. This will be "probably residential."
Two will go up at the Dalton and Belevedere area, opposite the Hilton and Sheraton hotels, and will have mixed office, residential, and ground-floor retail. The taller will be 512 feet high, putting it in the top ten of Boston skyscrapers..*
Check the article in the Boston Herald.
[url=http://bostonherald.com/business/real_estate/view.bg?articleid=1359634][/url]
Interestingly, there is no mention of this in the usually (or previously?) TMC-friendly Boston Globe.
The reflecting pond will be rebuilt. This has never worked from the start, leaking into the garage below. The new pond will be more shallow with a walkway across it at the center point, which is supposed to give the illusion of people walking on the water. There's been some aesthetic criticism of that from community interests.
More assets, more cash flow, fewer members. The Movement will have nicely salaried executives, to be sure!
*Tallest is the Hancock at 790 feet, followed by the closeby Prudential (749).
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