Posted Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:41 PM
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Posted Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:30 PM
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| Fantastic. If we have to pay for medical expensives for those who smoke then go to cancer treatment, drink but we pay for the liver. C.S. are tax payers to. This is great. I look forward to writing my opinon to our govener.
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Posted Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:31 PM
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| thx ellebee for the great site.
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Posted Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:52 PM
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| I belive our senator and his family practices chinese medicine I know I have heard of them using the Tortoise clinic (Chinese medicine) I wonder if it is included? I belive it would fall in the same category at least in this bill.
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Posted Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:02 PM
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Anonymous (9/30/2009) Fantastic. If we have to pay for medical expensives for those who smoke then go to cancer treatment, drink but we pay for the liver. C.S. are tax payers to. This is great. I look forward to writing my opinon to our govener.True. I haven't made up my mind how I feel about this yet, which is why I didn't post an opinion along with the link. You make a very valid point. By covering faith-based healers, does that promote the idea? Send the message that it's okay and acceptable? Or does it simply acknowledge that these tax payers should also receive some benefits from what they are paying into the system? Somehow I don't think stopping this portion of the bill will stop any CSist from seeking out a practictoner! But it appears that some people are pretty worked up over this - I'd certainly welcome more insight into this!
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Posted Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:04 AM
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| The current national debate on health care requirements is contentious enough. I know some see this as an opportunity to push other agendas, but I think if we really want national health care reform, we need to keep it simple. We can argue the merits of the IRS allowing medical deductions for spiritual healing in a separate venue. I don't think the language in the bill or amendment actually promotes CS or any other healthcare choice. I try to be objective about this. Taxation without representation was one of the big issues that started this country. I know, the president doesn't like to call this a tax, but mandatory health insurance would require all citizens to ante up for health care whether they think they need it or not. To be fair, I think we would have to either allow Christian Scientists to opt out of the insurance, or allow claims for legitimate spiritual healing treatments as the IRS already allows. Overall, it is probably better to have the Christian Scientists pay into the system just like everyone else. I would guess their claims would be fewer and less costly than the general public. In the meantime, wouldn't it would be great if we could get all of our lawmakers in DC to just read the entire bill before they vote on it?
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Posted Thursday, October 01, 2009 3:01 PM
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"Did you know that in Massachusetts there are no insurance plans that cover spiritual, prayer-based systems of
health care available to the general public for individuals to privately purchase? Or that beyond one very
specific new rider that Tufts Health Plan is offering and The First Church of Christ, Scientist's employee plan,
there are no policies available for individuals to purchase from their employers that would cover their health
care needs spiritually? Yet for 70-plus years, there were regularly policies available from about 300 insurance
companies for Christian Science care. Yes, that's right — 300!"
Except from that article "Room for prayer-based health care" in Cape Cod Online by KENNETH GIRARD on
June 25, 2009
See full article at:
http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090625/OPINION/306259843
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Posted Thursday, October 08, 2009 6:28 PM
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| Any thoughts on the ruling in Wisconsin (parents found guilty after prayer only based death of their daughter)? Poll with article shows overwhelming public support on the ruling.
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Posted Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:35 AM
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Does anybody know if the health care bill passed exempts CSer's from having to buy health insurance?
If not, is TMC likely to challenge the new law on the grounds of freedom of religion?
John
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Posted Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:47 AM
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Does anybody know if the health care bill passed exempts CSer's from having to buy health insurance? The CS Church lobbied to have "spiritual health care" covered in the bill and I know that failed. I haven't heard anything about them being exempted from having to buy health coverage. I do know that others have filed lawsuits stating that it is unconstitutional for government to force private citizens to buy health insurance coverage (it's different than forcing people to buy, for example, car insurance, since people can choose not own cars and thus avoid the insurance). I think we will have to wait for this issue to be examined in court, both regarding CSists and anyone else who wants to avoid being forced to buy the insurance.
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