 Posted Friday, October 23, 2009 10:28 AM
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| My worse fear came true....I feel like I can't breath right now...seriously trying to calm down. I feel so helpless and don't know what else to do besides pray. I just read an email between my husband and a CS practitioner who is "treating" him. My husband of course never says anything to me about his health issues bc there aren't supposed to be any right? Well he has some pretty serious stuff going on with him....tumors that hurt, coughing back substances, an't breath, and other symptoms. I am freaking out because he doesn't know I read this for one and know what's really going on with him and 2- he won't go to a medical doctor. I am so scared right now and I don't know where else to go to talk to anyone. This is the hardest thing I've dealt with in a long time and I'm struggling to hold it together. Should I approach this and if so how? Please help me.
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Posted Friday, October 23, 2009 10:53 AM
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| So sorry to hear that he's in such difficulty. I understand your deep concern! I guess the first question to consider when thinking through how to approach him is: Was the e-mail in a place where you might accidentally find it, or did you have to dig a bit to find it? In other words, if you tell him you know what's going on will he think you're purposely invading his privacy?
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Posted Friday, October 23, 2009 10:53 AM
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Godskid,
I feel so bad for you!!!
I'm struggling as to whether to share this or not, but I'm going to go ahead. (Please don't do anything you feel you shouldn't).
In 1957, I was 3 1/2 years old. My Dad was a Christian Scientist and my Mother a Methodist. (They got together and married because their careers were very compatible, but that's another story.) My mother struggled with my Dad's beliefs and they went their separate ways on Sunday.
That year, my Dad had a burst appendix for three days. A practitioner was brought to the house, but a healing didn't come. Finally, my mother got down on her knees and said that if she didn't let her call an ambulance, she would divorce him. She said it wouldn't make any difference, as he would be dead anyway. He reluctantly agreed, and was rushed into surgery which lasted 7 hours (very unusual in those days). Thank God it was successful, or my mother would have been a widow and I fatherless growing up. (It took him weeks to recover. So much penicillin was used also that if he ever needed it again, it would have killed him).
This turned out to be the best course for my folks and our family (although probably not so for others in this situation). I will add you to my prayer list that God will show you and your spouse the right way.
In Christ,
John
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Posted Friday, October 23, 2009 11:08 AM
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| No, I definately had to dig to find this....He hasn't been acting right and I have felt something going on with him. I don't want to do anything to hurt him or display my distrust. I have been trying to get a better understanding of where he's coming from and how he views healing and Christ, etc....I know it isn't Truth and just something felt wrong...that's when I looked at the email to see what was going on. We are leaving this afternoon to spend the weekend together. I am gonna keep praying and ask God to reveal an opportunity for this conversation to come about. This sucks. I may be predicting the worse case scenario too....who knows, it's hard not to when I know where he stands in his belief..... but this is bound to happen sooner or later.
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Posted Friday, October 23, 2009 12:11 PM
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Maybe you don't have to mention the email. Can you just say that you can tell that he isn't well, and that you are very upset and will have no peace unless he gets checked out by a doctor? Beg him to do it just for you, as a favor to quiet your fears?
Ann
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Posted Friday, October 23, 2009 12:23 PM
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| I may just do that....I am getting ready to leave with him to enjoy a weekend away together. i am just going to pray for aan opportunity. Thank you!
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Posted Sunday, October 25, 2009 8:31 PM
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| Pray for him, but there's no need to tell him that you're doing this. Christian Scientists are very touchy about having people (especially those of us who subscribe to "Old Theology") pray for them. A non-metaphysical prayer of petition is regarded as spiritually inferior, and may cloud the spiritual atmosphere and impede the patient's demonstration. So just don't bring the matter up. But pray. You mentioned that he has expressed an interest in going into "the Practice." There's an obvious disconnect between his condition and his ambition. What if you asked him, "Are you still interested in going into the Practice? Have you considered the temporal issues--that a practioner is supposed to be entirely self-supporting by his practice before he can get a Journal card (i.e. listing)? Do you have a sufficient degree of metaphysical mastery over your own life to be able to treat others? I mean, is there anything you have to deal with before you try to treat others? As they say, you can't give what what you don't have....." This could be a way to broach the subject of his ailments. And it could lead to the major issue that on these heavy-duty challenges, CS does not have a good track record. Just a bunch of scattered, unsubstantiated anecdotes.
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Posted Monday, October 26, 2009 5:23 PM
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Just got back from a weekend with my hubby......praying nonstop. I was praying for an opportunity to get this out in the open. My trip gave me the answers, and as always....when they are from Above they are not what I would expect, but a much greater plan than mine. It really reminded me of how small my thinking was. I am still watching my husband struggle thinking something is wrong with him because he can't "heal" himself. It amazed me at the response from the email from the CS practionioner treating him......all quotes from Science and Health of course, hardly anything right out of the Bible. After the email from my husband I would expect a normal person would say "go to a doctor" but the CS practioner did no such thing. You will have to excuse me, I have been updating myself on CS, but this has been my first real up close and personal encounter with how scary it can be. This made it "real" that it was really affecting "infecting" someone I love dearly. In between our time spent together my husband just fiercly reads S&C and constantly looks for emails from the practitioner as if to find some instant intellectional magic answer. Though CS seems to revolve around love, to me it really seems so man-centered as if we really have something to do with the outcome of God's sovereign plan. I believe in prayer 100% but not in the "control." When it comes down to it, they seek answers in S&H not through Scripture. I believe in loveing the Lord God with all our heart , "mind" and soul. but we can't love with our mind unless we are yielding to the Holy Spirit whom resides in us if we believe and have accepted Jesus Christ as our Savior. We went to a concert and one of the singers Natalie Grant was talking about a band out of Ireland called Bluetree. Their song she sang of theirs was called God of this City...amazing check out song and story if you get a chance. This band was sent on a mission trip to Thailand and ended up playing in a bar in an area where prostitution is huge including minors. They said as they played there were 8,9,10,11 yr old girl on the stairs being sold into prostitution....the most horrific thing they had ever seen. They asked for a moment "where is God in this?" and outpoured their song. The song is about seeing the restoration in the girls and in the people of the world, seeing the story all the way to the end.....seeing all the way to their salvation and God's perfect plan. We see only a small part and God has this ultimate plan that is all good. It made me think of my husband that way. Being able to see not this horrible thing he and I are going through but seeing it all the way to the end, seeing my husband saved and restored and healed and Glorifying the Lord. I see him helping other lives when he is saved through what he has been through. I see him strengthened in the future by what he is going through right now. There is a plan for him and it's not mine. Now I know this is still gonna be a struggle, and there will be hard times where I will probably not be able to "see" God in mine and my husband's life but my faith will carry me through. All this weekend I was praying for him to see answers and some revelation when it was my turn to see something. My husband is in good hands....God's got his back. I believe if I continue to walk a Christian walk and stand firm with the armor of God, through me or inspite of me my wonderful husband will be graced with the Truth. I have to believe that. One small maybe dumb question........  my husband just yesterday said he needed glasses.....and was going to get some. Now doesn't that contradict with the whol CS thing? If they don't go to doctors, why would they go to eye doctors and not try to "heal" their sight? The thought just came to me, as I see many CS with glasses. Aren't wearing glasses saying something is wrong with their eyes? love ~ Amy aka "Godskid"
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Posted Tuesday, October 27, 2009 8:07 AM
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To answer your question about wearing glasses.
It is rationalized by a quote."Suffer it to be so now",or as I gain understanding in CS i will no longer need any human answers but until then I wear glasses,go to the dentist,etc.
It's all *** and denial.Mrs Eddy relied on morphine a good deal of her life too.
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Posted Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:49 AM
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"...seeing the story all the way to the end.....seeing all the way to their salvation and God's perfect plan. We see only a small part and God has this ultimate plan that is all good. It made me think of my husband that way. Being able to see not this horrible thing he and I are going through but seeing it all the way to the end, seeing my husband saved and restored and healed and Glorifying the Lord. "
This reminds me of something that was shared with me one time: When you're driving in a car at night you can only see as far as the headlights, but you make the entire trip that way and arrive safely at your destination. We don't have any trouble trusting that those headlights will get us there. God is so much greater than simple headlights, we can trust that he's lighting our path (the path He put us on) and will get us safely to the end. All we need to do is trust, and let go, and let Him do what he does best!
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