Posted Friday, May 20, 2005 3:11 PM
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Hi, this is my first time posting so forgive me if I don't do it right! I was a CSt for 25 years, didn't practice any faith for a few years, and accepted Jesus as my Lord and Savior 25 years ago. Even though I've been out of CS for many years, I'm just now understanding the emotional damage I suffered because of it. A few days ago I took a letter written by my CS aunt to my therapist and read it to her. She said "This explains a whole lot about the issues you're working on." I found this website and was so amazed at how much I identified with some of the posts I've read. Right now I'm feeling angry and sad at the losses in my life caused by CS: my mom's death from untreated high blood pressure when I was 9, my brother's suicide because his emotional problems were ignored when I was 11, not to mention the lack of recognition of my feelings, hurts, and illness and my blaming myself for EVERYTHING! For the past 2 days I've pretty much been crying all day. I hope some of you who identify with this can help me. Thank you!
polarbear
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Posted Friday, May 20, 2005 4:56 PM
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Hi polarbear,
I haven't been to this site in a few months until tonight. Welcome. You've come to the right place. I am sorry to hear about your losses and all the pain you are dealing with. I haven't had any of the same problems, but are those here who have. I'm grateful to hear that you are having help in therapy to deal with the problems and delayed pain. God loves you, polarbear. Your tears are part of the healing. We will keep you in our prayers.
Blessings, Susan
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Posted Friday, May 20, 2005 6:52 PM
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Dear polarbear,
Just want to add my welcome to Susan's and let you know that you are in my thoughts and prayers also. May you feel yourself wrapped in God's love and remember that you are ever so precious to Him!
-- Grace
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Posted Friday, May 20, 2005 9:08 PM
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PolarBear, Go read my last post in the "what sparked your change" topic. Yeah, after reading it you will discover that one major aspect of CS makes me feel angry and sad. Angry because of the result of CS restrictions, and sad, well because I never new her. But guess what, those were the previous chapters in my life, this forum has become the preface to a new book. I hope you will find it as helpful as I have!
Frogs RiBiT rIbiT
Fully Relying On God for Salvation
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Posted Monday, May 23, 2005 8:24 AM
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Dear Polarbear,
Welcome to this forum!
Unfortunately, CS accounts for many emotional issues! Although I didn't suffer from medical neglect and, having found CS as an adult, don't have family members or friends who died from it, but I did find CS at a time when things from an abusive past came up. Instead of understanding my problems and getting the proper treatment, I tried to handle these matters in CS.
In fact, it made them a lot worse! Something which I understood only some time after I had left CS and started treatment and especially Christian counseling (which worked miracles for me!).
I think the biggest problem is that, as a CSist, you are constantly called to deny what is real, and your real feelings, and instead see "the reality of the spiritual universe". It could probably turn someone to kind of narcissistic behaviour (where people live up to an image of themselves and try to hide their true selves, and where feelings are controlled / hid).
What - apart from professional help, of course - helped me considerably was e.g. Linda Kramer's book "The Religion that kills" - it shows why CS is a cult, to understand that God created me exactly as I am and that I don't have to hide any of my personality, and this website
Marion
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Posted Monday, May 23, 2005 4:28 PM
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Thank you, Susan, Grace, Frogs, and Marion for your welcomes, prayers, and thoughts. I continue to struggle with the pain of realizing how much CS has affected my life and my thoughts. God has been so gracious to me, to lead me out of deception and into the real Truth, Jesus Christ. I am so thankful for that. At the same time, I feel overwhelmed with sadness right now. If there's anyone who would be willing to correspond with me by email, especially someone who was brought up in CS, I would love to hear from you. I really need support now. My Christian counselor, my husband and my friends are very loving and willing to listen, but they really can't understand what I'm going through. My email is jile@localnet.com
Thank you! Polarbear
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Posted Tuesday, May 24, 2005 6:09 AM
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Polarbear:
I'm glad you found this website. I too grew up in CS, and have been sorting through all the emotional garbage the last few years. There is light at the end of the tunnel - the real Truth. Keep on looking for it, and praying for it. I find that when I pray for the Truth to be revealed, God is faithful and patient in revealing it. Amazing how we learn to deny in CS - we can deny just about everything. I'm willing to listen - stsuz@hotmail.com
stsuz
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Posted Friday, June 15, 2007 9:25 AM
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| When I first posted over 2 years ago I said I was sad and angry about the pain CS caused me. I've worked a whole lot on the sadness and have made great progress. Now I'm working through my anger and it's scary! In my family if I expressed anger in typical childhood ways I was chastised and told to see myself as God's perfect child who isn't angry. My response was to "stuff" the anger. The only way I saw adults express anger was silence. There were days when my dad didn't speak to me at all. I didn't think he loved me and usually I didn't even know why he was angry. I'm finally letting myself feel angry and sometimes it's overwhelming. In addition to being angry about the events of my childhood (the death of my mom & brother and sexual abuse by my dad & brother) I'm furious about the brainwashing I received in CS. I'm working with an excellent therapist who understands the effect CS has had on me but I'd like to hear from people who know first hand what it's like. Thanks for letting me vent! Polarbear
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Posted Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:11 PM
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| Polarbear, It's normal for the anger to come out and for it to be surprisingly intense and even overwhelming. I had a loving family and a basically happy childhood despite some major glitches that I had to work through in therapy, so I was surprised by the intensity of the anger that finally came to the surface. Part of the problem was that my CS way of thinking had never allowed me to properly process emotions and events as a child. When I started to recognize and work through the issues as an adult, they all started coming to the surface and I had to face a lifetime of significant events. For a while things became so intense that my anger overwhelmed my good memories; as I worked through the anger the balance finally returned. Now most of the things that caused anger are more memories than feelings. A therapist drew the analogy to physical scars after a wound has healed; the scar is evidence that there was a wound, but the wound doesn't hurt anymore. I don't know if I have described this event before on the forums, but I'll share it with you now. In 1995 I spent a couple of weeks at the Wellspring Retreat and Resource Center, a counseling facility for people who have been in cults, cultic relationships, and "high demand" groups of various sorts. I went there because I was feeling extreme and unrelenting anxiety that I knew was related to my background in CS and was looking for help in understanding how CS had affected me. One of my symptoms was what I can only describe as "a scream inside my head." It had been there for a very long time; I had no idea what it was or what was causing it. The counseling sessions lasted two hours every day in addition to daily workshops, so we had time to really get into some of my issues. The first few days we explored some basic issues that came to mind and didn't necessarily involve CS, but on the third or fourth day I started describing the thinking processes involved in CS. All of a sudden I started screaming uncontrollably. It went on for several minutes and was REALLY intense (you "had to be there"... ). The counselor said what he saw was a perfect blending of two emotions -- "I'm ANGRY" and "This [CS] is driving me CRAZY!!!" When it was all over I noticed the most amazing thing -- the "scream" was gone. I suspect this actually represents the release of a longstanding tension, but it was an amazing sensation. I never felt the "scream in my head" again. I told you this story to encourage you to go through your discovery process rather than being afraid of it. I think a lot of people have trouble working through their anger because they refuse to fully recognize and work through it -- they think it's just too scary or too painful, or they refuse to share something like sexual abuse with a male counselor because they were sexually abused by a male. Many people simply don't have a "safe" environment in which to allow the anger to surface. I doubt, for example, whether my screaming episode could have occurred in a counseling office located in an office building where the walls are fairly thin and I would have been aware of "neighbors" wondering what was going on and thinking about the crazy lady in the shrink's office. Wellspring provided an incredibly private environment where anyone within earshot would "understand" and not be worried or judgmental. (OK, the dog outside didn't understand and started barking...) But the screaming episode provided insight into my issues that was crucial to my recovery process. I don't know if what I'm sharing is helpful. I want to put my arms around you and let you know that the freedom you are seeking is well worth the effort you are going through.
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Posted Sunday, June 17, 2007 8:37 PM
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