 Posted Thursday, October 13, 2005 9:46 AM
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Anonymous posting has been enabled again. Hopefully the four month break has gotten rid of some of the spam and other problems we were having.
If you post anonymously:
1- Please sign some sort of nickname at the bottom of your post so that people can keep track of which anonymous poster you are. This will minimize the confusion created by having multiple people named "anonymous."
2 - You will not be able to edit your comments once they have been posted (people who register can edit their messages).
3- I will not hesitate to delete anonymous posts that I feel are disruptive to the forum.
Welcome back, Anonymous!
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Posted Friday, July 21, 2006 10:18 AM
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As I said above, I will not hesitate to delete posts that are disruptive to the forum. You may have noticed that I have deleted a few posts lately. I believe that these messages were written by the person who used to sign his posts "A Scientist," and who began attacking and disrupting the forums on a regular basis when he could not win people his to his opinions.
A recent message, which I belive came from A Scientist, stated the following: "about a month ago I paraphrased something from MBE in a reply. My reply was wiped out and I got a message forbidding me to post again for a month." This is clearly a lie because I never forbid someone from posting "for a month." A Scientist has repeatedly lied and slandered people on this forum in the past, and I think that it is best to delete his posts whenever he makes them -- even if a particular message seems tame. Experience has shown that A Scientist quickly becomes disruptive if allowed to continue posting.
Dealing with people like A Scientist is the price we pay for allowing people to post anonymously. I appreciate those of you who are civil and honest, and I ask for your patience as I try to protect the forums from people like A Scientist.
Linda
Forum Moderator
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Posted Friday, July 21, 2006 12:03 PM
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The CS/Christian/Lutheran witness of "A Scientist" is extraordinary. His abuse of this forum and its contributors, his misrepresentations, and his continued attempts to disrupt certainly do not represent Christian Science, Christianity, or the Lutheran Church in which he once claimed to teach CS-inspired doctrine.
As moderator of this forum, Linda is the governing authority* responsible for maintaining it. Were "A Scientist" what he claims to be, a Christian with a predisposition towards CS, he would subject himself to the governing authority and discontinue his resistence.
Should he wish to dispute or discuss my comments, I welcome him to contact me at do-go-be-man@nc.rr.com.
In the meantime, I thank Linda for her efforts to maintain civility and the published standards of this forum. I also appreciate the contributions of true Christian Scientists such as TMCL who continue to gracefully post according to their consciences.
Do Go Be Man
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* Romans 13:1-7 (English Standard Version)
Submission to the Authorities
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. For the same reason you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.
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Posted Saturday, July 22, 2006 5:02 AM
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I appreciate the effort to keep the tone of the forum sincere.
Camille
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Posted Monday, July 31, 2006 3:10 AM
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I was raised 3rd generation in Science and when I became a teenage boy, I wondered why be a goody-goody while my friends were out having a good time. I strayed and now thanks to this site and marrying a Fundamentalist I know more about CS than I ever did growing up mainly by just reading MBE’s works as an adult.
Over the years, I started a couple of Ministries with the blessing of my Lutheran Church that I humbly say I have brought more seculars to Jesus and more Christians to Christ than any lay person I know. I started to incorporate many of MBE’s teachings into my talks as I find most men left it for a variety of reasons, but they like hearing a CS logical answer to the teachings of Jesus.
I was hoping to Minister to exes who twisted MBE’s writings or were taught a twisted version. Thankfully I never experienced these problems and never encountered them with any relative or friend at the CS Church. Growing up I had many childhood friends pass away, but not one was related or connected to CS. As a Stephen’s Minister, I have encountered many people who have issues with their parents over this and that and I can certainly understand the anger of those at this site who went through an apparent twisted interpretation. My story however is simple: My mother and father were both prayer warriors and not much bad happened to our family. When it did, we prayed and at times sought alternative (medical help).
My challenge was for anyone to post anything not Biblical in the S&H. For over a year I spent time answering 2-3 Bible passages a week showing when the Bible is metaphorical and when literal. I responded to all requests and I believe I proved my point that CS is Biblical.
After reading several cruel postings at this site, I pointed them out to the “leaders” of this site and when they allowed them, I wrote a nasty post. This began a barrage of people writing that I was a nasty person. I pointed out the nasty posts written about exes (several aimed at a teenage CS). Others were more cruel stating things like all Scientists won’t go to Heaven. My father, the best Christian I knew, had recently passed away and yes I did go berserk and continued posting nasty things and I was wrong.
I have encouraged some of my relatives to go to this site and challenge some of the posts. Some have, but most do not because they feel Matt 7:6, so they prefer to pray about it. I see that tmcl is slowly gaining ground and doing it with Christian love.
If you welcome me back, I will be happy to give my two cents to reply to any question on whether CS is Biblical. My goal would be to get some exes to examine what they went through and figure out that it may be great healing to go back to the CS Church and correct any twisted versions.
A Scientist
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Posted Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:42 PM
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A Scientist,
You're not helping your cause by continuing to post anonymously before receiving a reply to your post. Verifying your other posts and deleting them has used up the time I had planned to use in responding to your above request.
Please be paitient. I'll get back to you.
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Posted Wednesday, August 02, 2006 7:23 PM
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A Scientist,
I am sorry to hear about your dad's passing.
You may join our discussions again if you meet certain conditions. Please understand that these conditions are intended to protect this forum and its participants. You have lied on this forum as recently as the past two weeks and have also posted without permission even after asking to be welcomed back, so I hope you can understand why I have trouble trusting your motives. (Newcomers can see some background in the “History” section at the end of this post.)
You may participate on the forum if you will do the following:
* Seek the forgiveness of those whom you attacked. This should include Do Go Be Man, Christian Way Director Mike Benjamin, and anyone else that you can remember
* Renounce the false information you attempted to spread
* Acknowledge that you were barred for inappropriate use of this forum, not to censor pro-CS postings
* Apologize for the inappropriate use of this forum that resulted in your being barred
* Acknowledge that voicing doctrinal beliefs is different from personally attacking someone by calling them names like “village idiot.”
* Register using your real name and contact information
* Only post using your registered login
* Agree that anonymous posts you generate will continue to be deleted
* Identify and provide contact information for an accountability partner. This partner should be your pastor or an officer of your church who is willing to help you remain accountable to the terms and conditions for use of this forum. Provide Christian Way with the name, street address, and city of your church so that someone from Christian Way can contact this person. You can send this information to me at contact@christianway.org.
If you choose to abide by these conditions, please let me know by posting below and making the appropriate apologies, etc. Then register with the forums as “A Scientist” and DO NOT POST until you have an accountability partner who has been verified by someone from Christian Way. I will let you know when you can post.
I hope that you will agree to the conditions and will become a productive contributor to the forum.
History
In order to put these conditions into perspective for people who have recently joined the forum and do not know you, I will show a post that I wrote in February of 2004. The post is as follows:
Message posted February 07, 2004 8:18 PM
General Comments Category, Before you sabotage our discussions (a message from the Moderator)
Hi Folks,
You may have noticed that a number of recent messages have quickly disappeared. Don't worry -- neither your computer nor the forum software is malfunctioning. The missing messages represent the most recent antics of our resident "troll."
Some of you will remember this man as an anonymous participant who used to sign his posts "A Scientist." He first began posting messages on the forum about a year ago, claiming to currently attend a mainstream Christian church though he vigorously defended his perspective of Christian Science. We initially welcomed his comments on the forum as they resulted in a lot of good discussion.
Eventually, however, it became obvious that his knowledge of Christian Science was weak and not based on actual experience. His Christian witness has also been somewhat lacking. Apparently frustrated, “A Scientist” stopped signing his posts and began assaulting this forum, Calvary Church (our web host), and other forum participants. Over the past several months he has posted messages . . .
. . . insulting other participants and making hurtful comments about people coming to the forum for help.
. . . impersonating other participants, making them appear to say things they would never say.
. . . falsely and libelously accusing Calvary Church of using this forum as a money-making scheme.
. . . attempting to violate the privacy of other participants such as repeatedly misidentifying one regular participant as an Associate Pastor of Calvary Church.
. . . posing as a member of Calvary Church while claiming to have led fund raising efforts using this forum and making comments sympathetic to a white-supremacist group.
His most recent antics involve pretending that a "minister at this site" is attempting to sexually molest him.
Though the identities of other anonymous posters are protected, "A Scientist" has unintentionally left clues that have allowed us to link these malicious posts to him.
Thanks for your patience with the deleted posts.
Blessings,
Linda
Moderator
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Over the two and a half years since I made the above post, A Scientist has continued to visit the forum on a semi-regular basis while never signing “A Scientist” to his posts. It quickly became apparent that, even if his initial post or two were civil, his subsequent posts would become insulting and otherwise inappropriate. For that reason I adopted a “zero tolerance” policy, deleting his posts whenever I could identify them.
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Posted Thursday, August 03, 2006 4:28 PM
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Thank you for your response Linda, it tells me a lot about you. This will take me days to answer, as I don’t get paid to do this. . . . (text deleted by Moderator)
Neither do I.
A Scientist, please remember that your posts are still limited pending your reponse to the above conditions. - Moderator
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Posted Saturday, August 05, 2006 6:04 AM
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Text deleted by Moderator
A Scientist, pending confirmation that you will again be allowed to post, please refrain from posting any message that does not directly address the conditions offered to enable you to post. We do not have the time to address your issues unless you are first willing to comply. If you have other concerns, please address them to contact@christianway.org -Moderator
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Posted Monday, August 14, 2006 5:26 PM
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